Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26

Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26
Message de here4u posté le 16-02-2025 à 10:58:10 (S | E | F)
Hello dear Friends!

Another easy exercice that everyone can do!

Je sais que l'Expression libre est la compétence la plus difficile à bien acquérir dans l'apprentissage d'une langue, même si elle est notre langue maternelle, d'ailleurs...

Certains m’avaient dit être gênés d’exprimer des idées personnelles (surtout qu’ils avaient l’impression – souvent fausse – de les exprimer maladroitement. ) Cependant, je ne vous demande pas de " raconter votre vie " si vous ne le désirez pas... Je souhaite juste vous voir vous exprimer sur tout sujet aussi " librement " que possible.
De plus, je pense que vous aurez maintenant compris que pour moi, toute expression, même maladroite, est intéressante et a de la valeur. Elle nous stimule tous à " trouver mieux " !

Voici les questions auxquelles vous pouvez répondre. Mais, on les a déjà vues, celles-là...
Eh oui... je suis pour les 'secondes chances'... et j'espère que vous serez d'accord avec moi et répondrez vite! Je vous attends !

1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you?

2. For you, is it easier to forget, or to forgive?

3. Is male/female inequality a thing of the past?

4. Is a good education essential to have a ‘good job’?



Vous pouvez choisir 1 ou 2 questions au choix – en notant bien les références - et développer celle(s) que vous voulez, jusqu’à atteindre en tout un maximum d’environ 150 mots.

Envoyez-moi vos réponses en mp et je publierai une première série que vous 'corrigerez' (en bleu d’abord pendant deux jours) puis en vert… Une fois la première réponse corrigée au mieux, je publierai ensuite la deuxième série... (sans changements donc ! ) Vous gagnez de la liberté (celle de ne pas parler de plusieurs sujets, ceux qui ne vous " inspirent pas "... Vous écrivez la longueur que vous voulez, vous pouvez choisir d'inventer, de plaisanter, ou de répondre avec sérieux... Nous vous suivrons !

Cet exercice sera pour vous un ou en fonction de la qualité de vos écrits et des difficultés (surmontées) dans la prestation...

Cet exercice sera corrigé (j'espère !)le mercredi 26 février 2025 ! Go for it! with THE FORCE.

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 16-02-2025 à 22:04:21 (S | E)
Hello dears,


Fast workers! Please indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy to you...


ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you?

The person whom I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words

Thanks for your help!

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de gerold, postée le 20-02-2025 à 07:45:55 (S | E)
Hello dears!

ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you?

A very good text

The person whom I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 21-02-2025 à 13:56:08 (S | E)
Hello dears!

ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you?

A very good text, indeed! my indications

The person (whom) I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because (ponctuation pour éviter une phrase trop longue)I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas (ponctuation)if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words

Green allowed...

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de happynutmeg13, postée le 21-02-2025 à 16:37:31 (S | E)
Hello!

En tenant compte des indications de Here4U and gerold:

The person I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me to go out of my confort zone going out of my comfort zone and, thanks to him I changed my way of thinking and of seeing the worldquestioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets' tips: for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quickshort, accurate sentence; and it's not that so easy,: because (ponctuation pour éviter une phrase trop longue)I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas,(ponctuation)if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings*. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...


*feelings and emotions are different, but I don't know which could translate the French 'émotions'
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Modifié par happynutmeg13 le 21-02-2025 16:39

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 22-02-2025 à 15:56:15 (S | E)
Hello, dears!

Thanks for your suggestions!

Here is ANSWER B: (the writer added: il ne faudrait pas que gerold s'ennuie...[ ]

4. Is a good education essential to have a 'good job'?

I think it is a 'necessary but not sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what do we consider 'education'? To me, 'education' refers not only to studies and school, but also to family upbringing; and then, what makes a good job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is at least as important as education is:
- the connexions you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connexions may come from your family, your school, or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which result from your personal temperament, but also from your education... in every sense of the word... 157 words


for your help!

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de gerold, postée le 22-02-2025 à 20:33:18 (S | E)
Hello!

Here is ANSWER B: (the writer added: il ne faudrait pas que gerold s'ennuie...[ ] , c'est gentil de penser à moi.

4. Is a good education essential to have a 'good job'?

I think it is a 'necessary but not sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what do we consider 'education'? To me, 'education' refers not only to studies and school, but also to family upbringing in English too?; and then, what makes a good job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is at least as important as education is:
- the connexions you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connexions may come from your family, your school, or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which result from your personal temperament, but also from your education... in every sense of the word... "éducation" is not exactly the same as "education" 157 words

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 23-02-2025 à 18:39:43 (S | E)
Hello dears,

Green allowed for ANSWER B!

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de happynutmeg13, postée le 24-02-2025 à 09:20:15 (S | E)
4. Is a good education essential to have a 'good job'?

Merci à gerold de ses commentaires et corrections !
Le contre-sens sur 'education' oblige à revoir tout le 1er paragraphe... (I hate false friends
I suggest this:

I think it is a 'necessary but not sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what makes a 'good' job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is are at least as important as education is are:
- the social and cultural environment in which you were raised
- the way your parents raised you and the values they transmitted to you
- the connections you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connections may come from your family, your school, You may have those connections thanks to your school, your family or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which mainly result from your personal temperament.

(pour le coup la fin est un peu abrupte...)

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 24-02-2025 à 11:02:54 (S | E)
Hello dears!

Don't feel guilty, dear Happynutmeg! You didn't misunderstand 'education'... Your definition proves that you're more British than you think you are...

"The main difference between "éducation" and "education" is that "éducation" refers to the process of learning or teaching, while "education" encompasses the systems, methods, and experiences that facilitate learning and intellectual development"

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 25-02-2025 à 11:38:22 (S | E)
Hello!

Here is a third suggestion of ideas:

ANSWER C: 3. Is male/female inequality a thing of the past?
please, indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy to you...

Although people have incontestably become aware of the problem, I don't think we can speak of a 'thing from the past'. In many fields, women still find it hard to carve out their niches; deep-rooted clichés are responsible for this. Here is a symptomatic one: 'girls wouldn't be naturally as good as boys in maths and science'. Consequently, many parents won't necessarily encourage their daughters to improve their levels, whereas they would be much more demanding for boys... Unconscienciously, many girls tend to accept this cliché; if their grades are just average, they won't struggle to take competitive exams to get into an engineering school; unlike them, boys generally don't think their grades are not good enough to try it out. And girls who excell in this sort of studies are very often seen as exceptions... What is extraordinary in this matter is not their skills, but rather their determination and courage !

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de gerold, postée le 25-02-2025 à 22:58:33 (S | E)
Hello!

ANSWER C: 3. Is male/female inequality a thing of the past?
please, indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy to you...

Good text, only a few mistakes

Although people have incontestably become aware of the problem, I don't think we can speak of a 'thing from the past'. In many fields, women still find it hard to carve out their niches; deep-rooted clichés are responsible for this. Here is a symptomatic one: 'girls wouldn't be naturally as good as boys in maths and science'. Consequently, many parents won't necessarily encourage their daughters to improve their levels, whereas they would be much more demanding for boys... Unconscienciously, many girls tend to accept this cliché; if their grades are just average, they won't struggle to take competitive exams to get into an engineering school; unlike them, boys generally don't think their grades are not good enough to try it out. And girls who excell in this sort of studies are very often seen as exceptions... What is extraordinary in this matter is not their skills, but rather their determination and courage !

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Réponse : Let's suggest 80/ Taking it easy 26 de here4u, postée le 26-02-2025 à 23:45:26 (S | E)
Hello dears,

ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you? Initial text and my preliminary remarks(happy)

The person (whom) I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words


ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you? Gerold's indications :
A very good text

The person whom I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words

ANSWER A: Topic 1. Is there a person, or place that has particularly influenced you?

A very good text, indeed! my indications

The person (whom) I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me both going out of my comfort zone and questioning my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets': for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this quick, accurate sentence; and it's not that easy, because (ponctuation pour éviter une phrase trop longue)I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas (ponctuation)if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...153 words


En tenant compte des indications de Here4U and gerold: Happynutmeg’s suggestions

The person I immediately think of is the therapist I used to visit for quite a long time several years ago. How did he influence me? Actually, he helped me to go out of my confort zone going out of my comfort zone and, thanks to him I changed my way of thinking and of seeing the world questioning(punctuation)my usual way of thinking and seeing the world. And he gave me 'secrets' tips: for example: 'rather than being trustful, or mistrustful, be watchful'; I don't know how it sounds in English, but believe me, I've often made good use of this (quick)short, accurate sentence; and it's not (that)** so easy,: because (ponctuation pour éviter une phrase trop longue)I've noticed we always tend to either trust or mistrust, and therefore we give priority to emotions; whereas,(ponctuation)if we are watchful, we keep an objective eye on people and on situations, and we avoid being carried away by subjective feelings*. I leave this other one to your meditation: don't confuse 'the average' with 'the normal'...

** 'that easy' est parfait et équivalent de 'so easy'
*feelings and emotions are different, but I don't know which could translate the French 'émotions'(both are possible! It's up to you...)

Ton expression était bonne et est meilleure. Tu gagnerais à éviter le recours trop fréquent à 'and' en début de phrases. Il donne l'impression que tu réfléchis par coordination et non pas par enchaînement logique, ce qui est pourtant le cas. Fais des phrases plus courtes et utilise mieux les mots de liaison.

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Here is ANSWER B:topic 4:Is a good education essential to have a 'good job'? Initial text

I think it is a 'necessary but not X sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what do we consider 'education'? To me, 'education' refers not only to studies and school, but also to family upbringing; and then, what makes a good job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is at least as important as education is:
- the connexions you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connexions may come from your family, your school, or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which result from your personal temperament, but also from your education... in every sense of the word... 157 words
A very good essay.


Here is ANSWER B: topic 4 Is a good education essential to have a 'good job'? Gerold's indications

I think it is a 'necessary but not X sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what do we consider 'education'? To me, 'education' refers not only to studies and school, but also to family upbringing in English tooYES!; and then, what makes a good job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is at least as important as education is:
- the connexions you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connexions may come from your family, your school, or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which result from your personal temperament, but also from your education... in every sense of the word... "éducation" (F) is not exactly the same as "education" 157 words

Happynutmeg's suggestions:
I think it is a 'necessary but not X sufficient condition'.
But, firstly, what makes a 'good' job? Income, self-realisation, common good for society and the planet? It depends on what you're looking for in your life...
That said, in my opinion, what is are at least as important as education is are: Je n'aime pas la forme 'deux points à la ligne, tirets... Ceci convient pour faire un plan, pas pour une expression.
- the social and cultural environment in which you were raised
- the way your parents raised you and the values they transmitted to you
- the connections you may have in your field of activities: if you happen to know someone who knows someone... that will make things much easier! Those connections may come from your family, your school, You may have those connections thanks to your school, your family or you can manage to get them on your own... This leads us to :
- your dynamism and your ability to create and detect opportunities, which mainly result from your personal temperament.

C'est bien mieux dès que tu rédiges... Gerold l'avait - dirait-on - ressenti aussi. Ca me gêne vraiment de te dire cela alors que tu travailles tellement... et que je t'en suis, naturellement, très reconnaissante... Je ne veux pas que tu te sentes obligée de travailler tant...
Tu n'avais pas fait de contresens... Aies confiance en tes connaissances !

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ANSWER C: 3. Is male/female inequality a thing of the past? initial text

Although people have incontestably become aware of the problem, I don't think we can speak of a 'thing from the past'. In many fields, women still find it hard to carve out their niches; deep-rooted clichés are responsible for this. Here is a symptomatic one: 'girls wouldn't be naturally as good as boys in maths and science'(supposed to aurait très bien pu exprimer ceci). Consequently, many parents won't necessarily encourage their daughters to improve their levels, whereas they would be much more demanding for boys... Unconscienciously, many girls tend to accept this cliché; if their grades are just average, they won't struggle to take competitive exams to get into an engineering school; unlike them, boys generally don't think their grades are not good enough to try it out. And girls who excell in this sort of studies are very often seen as exceptions... What is extraordinary in this matter is not their skills, but rather their determination and courage !


ANSWER C: 3. Is male/female inequality a thing of the past?
Good text, only a few mistakes.

Although people have incontestably become aware of the problem, I don't think we can speak of a 'thing from the past'. In many fields, women still find it hard to carve out their niches; deep-rooted clichés are responsible for this. Here is a symptomatic one: 'girls wouldn't be naturally as good as boys in maths and science'. Consequently, many parents won't necessarily encourage their daughters to improve their levels, whereas they would be much more demanding for boys... Unconscienciously, many girls tend to accept this cliché; if their grades are just average, they won't struggle to take competitive exams to get into an engineering school; unlike them, boys generally don't think their grades are not good enough to try it out. And girls who excell in this sort of studies are very often seen as exceptions... What is extraordinary in this matter is not their skills, but rather their determination and courage !

- unconsciously adv (without realising) inconsciemment adv
sans le vouloir, sans s'en rendre compte loc adv
- unconscientious adj (without an inner sense of what is right) peu consciencieux, peu consciencieuse adv + adj
unconscientious adj (not careful, not meticulous) peu consciencieux, peu consciencieuse adv + adj


Un très bon travail d'expression et de corrections. Bravo et pour tout ce temps !

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