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Message de here4u posté le 30-11-2024 à 17:56:55 (S | E | F)
Hello dear Friends!
Another easy exercice that everyone can do!
Je sais que l'Expression libre est la compétence la plus difficile à bien acquérir dans l'apprentissage d'une langue, même si elle est notre langue maternelle, d'ailleurs...
Certains m’avaient dit être gênés d’exprimer des idées personnelles (surtout qu’ils avaient l’impression – souvent fausse – de les exprimer maladroitement. ) Cependant, je ne vous demande pas de " raconter votre vie " si vous ne le désirez pas... Je souhaite juste vous voir vous exprimer sur tout sujet aussi " librement " que possible. 
De plus, je pense que vous aurez maintenant compris que pour moi, toute expression, même maladroite, est intéressante et a de la valeur. Elle nous stimule tous à " trouver mieux " !
Voici les questions auxquelles vous pouvez répondre.
1. - What's young people's main enemy?
2. - If you were to be a volunteer, what activity would you be useful at?
3. - 'All work and no play makes jack a dull boy… All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
4. - Are you afraid of Time?
Vous pouvez choisir 1 ou 2 questions au choix – en notant bien les références - et développer celle(s) que vous voulez, jusqu’à atteindre en tout un maximum d’environ 150 mots.
Envoyez-moi vos réponses en mp et je publierai une première série que vous 'corrigerez' (en bleu d’abord pendant deux jours) puis en vert… Une fois la première réponse corrigée au mieux, je publierai ensuite la deuxième série... (sans changements donc ! ) Vous gagnez de la liberté (celle de ne pas parler de plusieurs sujets, ceux qui ne vous " inspirent pas "... Vous écrivez la longueur que vous voulez, vous pouvez choisir d'inventer, de plaisanter, ou de répondre avec sérieux... Nous vous suivrons !
Cet exercice sera pour vous un
ou en fonction de la qualité de vos écrits et des difficultés (surmontées) dans la prestation...
Cet exercice sera corrigé (j'espère !) le jeudi 12 décembre 2024 ! Go for it! with THE FORCE. 
Message de here4u posté le 30-11-2024 à 17:56:55 (S | E | F)
Hello dear Friends!
Another easy exercice that everyone can do!
Je sais que l'Expression libre est la compétence la plus difficile à bien acquérir dans l'apprentissage d'une langue, même si elle est notre langue maternelle, d'ailleurs...
Certains m’avaient dit être gênés d’exprimer des idées personnelles (surtout qu’ils avaient l’impression – souvent fausse – de les exprimer maladroitement.
) Cependant, je ne vous demande pas de " raconter votre vie " si vous ne le désirez pas... Je souhaite juste vous voir vous exprimer sur tout sujet aussi " librement " que possible. 
De plus, je pense que vous aurez maintenant compris que pour moi, toute expression, même maladroite, est intéressante et a de la valeur. Elle nous stimule tous à " trouver mieux " !
Voici les questions auxquelles vous pouvez répondre.
1. - What's young people's main enemy?
2. - If you were to be a volunteer, what activity would you be useful at?
3. - 'All work and no play makes jack a dull boy… All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
4. - Are you afraid of Time?
Vous pouvez choisir 1 ou 2 questions au choix – en notant bien les références - et développer celle(s) que vous voulez, jusqu’à atteindre en tout un maximum d’environ 150 mots.
Envoyez-moi vos réponses en mp et je publierai une première série que vous 'corrigerez' (en bleu d’abord pendant deux jours) puis en vert… Une fois la première réponse corrigée au mieux, je publierai ensuite la deuxième série... (sans changements donc ! ) Vous gagnez de la liberté (celle de ne pas parler de plusieurs sujets, ceux qui ne vous " inspirent pas "... Vous écrivez la longueur que vous voulez, vous pouvez choisir d'inventer, de plaisanter, ou de répondre avec sérieux... Nous vous suivrons ! Cet exercice sera pour vous un
ou en fonction de la qualité de vos écrits et des difficultés (surmontées) dans la prestation... Cet exercice sera corrigé (j'espère !) le jeudi 12 décembre 2024 ! Go for it! with THE FORCE.
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de here4u, postée le 01-12-2024 à 14:15:51 (S | E)
Hello dear All,
Voici notre nouvel exercice d'expression: Let's Suggest. Je vous rappelle que vous devez essayer de suggérer des solutions qui vous satisfont!
ANSWER A: TOPIC 1 What is the main enemy of young people?
Please, indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy.
In my opinion, young people are impressionable and impatient.
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything, when they don't know much about it. These facts are particularly striking in teenagers.
Their enemies are other people. People they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
The enemy is also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility. They're not interested in parents' experience and advice.
What's more, they're under pressure to do well at school, and their professional future is uncertain.
And now, with social networking and video games, some of them are going completely mad. And I'm not talking about the drugs that are circulating,
There isn't just one main enemy, but a whole host of them.
for your help! Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de gerold, postée le 01-12-2024 à 18:51:37 (S | E)
Hello!
ANSWER A: TOPIC 1 What is the main enemy of young people?
Please, indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy.
In my opinion, young people are impressionable and impatient.
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything, when they don't know much about it. These facts are particularly striking in teenagers.
Their enemies are other people.(punctuation) People they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
The enemy is also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility. They're not interested in xx
parents' experience and advice.What's more, they're under pressure to do well at school, and their professional future is uncertain.
And now, with social networking and video games, some of them are going completely mad. And I'm not talking about the drugs that are circulating,
There isn't just one main enemy, but a whole host of them.
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de here4u, postée le 02-12-2024 à 14:47:53 (S | E)
Hello dears,
Green required tomorrow morning.
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de magie8, postée le 03-12-2024 à 12:29:00 (S | E)
correction text 1
topic1
Merci Gerold pour son aide
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything(even though they don't know much about.
Their enemies are other people: people they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
( The major enemies of young people are also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility.
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de here4u, postée le 07-12-2024 à 18:49:22 (S | E)
Hello dears!
No more suggestions about ANSWER A?... Pity!
Here is ANSWER B: please indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy!
ANSWER B: Topic 3. - 'All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
It reminds me of what one of my highschool teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago: 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult than the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to do what they want, and others we can't, unless they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...159 words
I hope this (very good) EXPRESSION will inspire you. Any comments are welcome!
for your help! Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de gerold, postée le 07-12-2024 à 22:43:03 (S | E)
Hello again!
Here is ANSWER B: please indicate possible mistakes and underline what looks clumsy!
Very good indeed!
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
It reminds me of what one of my highschool teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago: 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult than the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to do what they want, and others we can't, unless they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de here4u, postée le 10-12-2024 à 18:02:41 (S | E)
Hello dears,!
I was sure I had begged for green...
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de happynutmeg13, postée le 10-12-2024 à 18:27:23 (S | E)
Hello!
Here is my green (following gerold's suggestions, thank you!)
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
It reminds me of what one of my highschool high school teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago: 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult than that the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to dolet do what they want, and others we can't, unless fearing that they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor* : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...
* I agree it is not a metaphor... Could it be an 'aphorism'?
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Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de gerold, postée le 11-12-2024 à 16:00:44 (S | E)
Hello!
... We all know children we can leave to do let do what they want, and others we can't, unless (fearing that they will harm themselves (or Lest they should harm themselves (lest = de peur que)) in some way . To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor* : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...
* I agree it is not a metaphor... Could it be an 'aphorism'?
I'm not sure:
Aphorisme : Phrase qui résume en quelques mots une vérité fondamentale (Larousse)
Aphorism: Short phrase that says something true or wise (Oxford Dict.)
Perhaps "sentence" is more appropriate here.
Sorry, I don't know why it's all blue!
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Modifié par gerold le 11-12-2024 17:27
Réponse : Let's suggest 75- Taking it easy21 de here4u, postée le 12-12-2024 à 22:27:02 (S | E)
Hello dears,
Un grand
à notre WebMaster Laurent pour la correction du bug couleur…. Here are the (very good) indications of mistakes and suggestions you have made.
ANSWER A: Topic 1: INITIAL TEXT and my preliminary indications:
In my opinion, young people are impressionable and impatient.
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything, when they don't know much about it. These facts are particularly striking in teenagers.
Their enemies are other people.(ponctuation ?) ??People they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
The enemy is also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility. They're not interested in XXXXX parents' experience and advice.
What's more, they're under pressure to do well at school, and their professional future is uncertain.
And now, with social networking and video games, some of them are going completely mad. And I'm not talking about the drugs that are circulating,
There isn't just one main enemy, but a whole host of them.
TTBonne expression, qui ouvre beaucoup de portes que l’on voudrait voir synthétisées…
ANSWER A: TOPIC 1 What is the main enemy of young people? Gerold’s indications.
In my opinion, young people are impressionable and impatient.
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything, when they don't know much about it. These facts are particularly striking in teenagers.
Their enemies are other people.(punctuation) People they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
The enemy is also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility. They're not interested in xx parents' experience and advice.
What's more, they're under pressure to do well at school, and their professional future is uncertain.
And now, with social networking and video games, some of them are going completely mad. And I'm not talking about the drugs that are circulating,
There isn't just one main enemy, but a whole host of them.
De bonnes remarques.
topic1: Merci Gerold pour son aide : Magie’s suggestions.
Their fault is to want everything right away, and to imagine that they have the solution for everything(even though they don't know much about it. (OK. Précision intéressante.)
Their enemies are other people: people(éviter la répétition aussi proche…)Et ces gens sont DETERMINES…. ) they admire and want to imitate, even if they're often not the best examples.
( The major enemies of young people (Young people’s major enemies… is better.)are (is ?)also their naivety, the difficulty they have in knowing and building their own personalities, and their inability to admit their own fragility.(pour moi, tout ceci est de la naiveté…)
J’attendais surtout UN trait particulier qui aurait peut être être étudié plus en profondeur… mais il est vrai qu'il y en a plusieurs.
- to find the solution to the problem
- he's an excellent role model for his son
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ANSWER B: Topic3. - 'All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
initial text and my preliminary indications.
It reminds me of what one of my highschool teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago: 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult than the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to do what they want, and others we can't, unless they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...159 words
Très bonne expression.
ANSWER B: Gerold’s indications. Gerold says: 'Very good indeed!'
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
It reminds me of what one of my highschool teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago: 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult than the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to do what they want, and others we can't, unless they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...
(I would have liked the explanation of the sentence.)Très bonnes indications d’erreurs… C’est bien.
Here are Happynutmeg’s suggestions. (following gerold's indications, thank you!)
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? All play and no work makes Jack a silly boy!'
It reminds me of what one of my highschool (high school) [Both are correct] teachers used to say: 'extremes meet', and also of a sentence I came across a few years ago : 'What is the hardest to achieve is the happy medium'... It means in a general way that the challenge is for us to find the balance between 'too little' and 'too much'. It is particularly true when it comes to education, when we parents, along with teachers, have to avoid being too rigid as well as too permissive; and this is all the more difficult (than (that the appropriate behaviour between 'no tolerance' and 'too much tolerance' must be considered specifically for each child (or pupil). We all know children we can leave to do let do TTB what they want, and others we can't, (unless fearing that[ for fear they might/ for fear they should] they will harm themselves in some way. To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor*: 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually (finalement) finding, the 'happy medium''...
* I agree it is not a metaphor... Could it be an 'aphorism'.
Gerold’s suggestions:
... We all know children (we can leave to do let do what they want, and others we can't, unless (fearing that they will harm themselves (or Lest they should harm themselves (lest = de peur que)TTB) in some way . To conclude, let's meditate on this fine metaphor* : 'life as the art of seeking, and eventually finding, the 'happy medium''...
* Gerold says: I agree it is not a metaphor... Could it be an 'aphorism'?
I'm not sure:
Aphorisme : Phrase qui résume en quelques mots une vérité fondamentale (Larousse)
Aphorism: Short phrase that says something true or wise (Oxford Dict.)
Perhaps "sentence" is more appropriate here.YES! it is!
- highschool US / high-school GB(school for grades 9 to 12) Younger : Junior high.
: comprehensive school/ Secondary school.
- all the more + adjectif +AS/ SINCE/ BECAUSE mais ni 'that' ni 'than' ! Je sais que vous risquez de le trouver sur certains liens, et dans certains textes peu soignés, mais c’est incorrect. Cette structure s’emploie surtout dans un style soigné pour parler des émotions et des réactions.
- I was all the more annoyed because she didn’t apologize.
- J’ai passé une après midi entière à chercher les définitions et les meilleurs exemples de métaphores et d’aphorismes (très clairs) en anglais et en français…(J’ai bien ri...) en travaillant sur le concret et l’abstrait… mais je ne suis toujours pas certaine de la nature de la figure de style de notre texte: j’ai demandé à un collègue de français, mais suis tout à fait d’accord avec Gerold : it’s a sentence!
- Laisser faire quelque chose : to let somebody do something. (We all know children that we can let do whatever they want…
- UNLESS : à moins que, à moins de : (suivi d’un verbe à la forme affirmative) : You won’t go out tonight unless you promise to respect the 11 o’clock curfew./ Let’s buy a new one, unless you think you can fix this one before tonight.
Un gros BRAVO
et à vous. Vous avez toujours la possibilité de retranscrire dans in FOLLOW UP WORK tout ou partie d'une expression ou de l'autre..., une phrase si vous le voulez ! Profitez de votre LIBERTE.
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